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Sept 14, 2005 9:45:20 GMT -5
Post by rickus on Sept 14, 2005 9:45:20 GMT -5
Buddhism is by far the most evil of all the worlds religions, with the exceptions of the Kill All the Kittens cult.
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Sept 14, 2005 11:31:29 GMT -5
Post by Thanin on Sept 14, 2005 11:31:29 GMT -5
BUDDhism is totally about TeH Pot !!1! Major [glow=red,2,300]5uXX0rz[/glow] yo
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Sept 14, 2005 12:47:38 GMT -5
Post by Tyler on Sept 14, 2005 12:47:38 GMT -5
Buddhism is the one major world religion that I am not violently opposed to. I know only enough about it to find it wonderful.
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Sept 14, 2005 15:08:16 GMT -5
Post by Jeff on Sept 14, 2005 15:08:16 GMT -5
I, too, find it wonderful. I'd say it is the best religious expression of the fact that all things end. If that were the only religious truth, I'd be a Buddhist.
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Sept 14, 2005 16:24:10 GMT -5
Post by rickus on Sept 14, 2005 16:24:10 GMT -5
Violently opposed to Ty?
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Sept 14, 2005 17:57:54 GMT -5
Post by Tyler on Sept 14, 2005 17:57:54 GMT -5
Violently opposed to all Abrahamic traditions. They are the embodiment of ignorance and fear. Any good that has been done by them is far overshadowed by the multitude of their evils.
Religion = Fear
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Sept 14, 2005 20:04:19 GMT -5
Post by rickus on Sept 14, 2005 20:04:19 GMT -5
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Sept 14, 2005 20:18:28 GMT -5
Post by Jeff on Sept 14, 2005 20:18:28 GMT -5
We've had this argument before...
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Sept 15, 2005 9:46:28 GMT -5
Post by Guest Justin on Sept 15, 2005 9:46:28 GMT -5
Tyler, Have you even read Genesis? Do you know anything about Abraham? The guy told God that the destruction of Sodom et al was "unbecoming." Not fear, that's chutzpah!
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Sept 15, 2005 9:49:03 GMT -5
Post by Guest Justin on Sept 15, 2005 9:49:03 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way... I don't know for sure, but I'd wager your faith-hostile atheism hasn't left you any less fearful. That one time I ran in the living room of our townhous really fast going "AAAAAARRRRR!!!!" you screamed like a woman!
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Sept 15, 2005 11:33:25 GMT -5
Post by rickus on Sept 15, 2005 11:33:25 GMT -5
Violently opposed to all Abrahamic traditions. And how has your opposition manifested it's self violently. BTW, I am not asking in condemnation. It is with an air of admiration and fascination that I pose the question. For many years I have felt opposed to many many many ideas, institutions, groups, and a few individuals. And, while my disdain has been quite passionate, it's never caused me to venture into the realm of violence. I am aware that the story Fight Club was a satire. But I feel quite stirred by the thought of joining a "Project Mayhem" type operation. I often wish my fear of being anally rapped by the general population of the local prison weren't so strong as to keep me from acting out in a manner that would say "Fuck you" to the Man. I am not proud of my occasional compulsion. In fact I think I've only confessed this to Katie, until now. I don't believe I will ever bring to fruition any of these dark thoughts, but I don't mind living vicariously through you're evil actions. So again, please tell me of your violent deeds.
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Sept 16, 2005 11:15:58 GMT -5
Post by Tyler on Sept 16, 2005 11:15:58 GMT -5
Buddhism I am ignorant enough of to still feel good about. I've read good sections of the bible, and it's silly if taken seriously. My violence toward Abrahamic traditions hasn't manifested itself externally due to the aforementioned religion, some study of Kung-fu, and the fact that a bunch of my friends, which I respect greatly, ascribe to them. This confounds me to no end. You McBrides screw up my sweeping generalizations that I so want to ascribe to. But, like Rick, I am just waiting for the right opportunity. So, anyone out there running a crawler looking for someone to do something risky to help the world's populace, I'm your man. Until then, I'll busy myself with the small things. Collecting those little signs that the churches put at the sides of roads. Taking down fliers. Writing letters. Making sure that when people profess their faith that I let everyone know that I am not a christian and I think the idea is ludicrous.
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Sept 16, 2005 12:08:58 GMT -5
Post by rickus on Sept 16, 2005 12:08:58 GMT -5
I've read good sections of the bible, and it's silly if taken seriously. I know Jeff's said "We've had this arguement before." But I'd like to be certain about this. I'm not trying to start a discussin about religion by asking but, have you read the book of Mathew from the New Testament Ty?
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Sept 16, 2005 12:17:48 GMT -5
Post by Jeff on Sept 16, 2005 12:17:48 GMT -5
Rickus and Tyler: Feel free to take another stab at this argument. Our last attempt is over in the Papal Indulgence thread. The last try drove people away, but I doubt that that would happen again. We are now pretty hardcore.
If you guys wanna have another go, I'm game! The conversation, I'd argue, is probably one of the two or three core conversations that we should be having.
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Sept 16, 2005 12:26:51 GMT -5
Post by Tyler on Sept 16, 2005 12:26:51 GMT -5
OK, I just did a quick overview of Matthew, just to brush up. I've read it before. But I still have to say... the fact that Jesus implied that their is a god completely discounts anything good he may have said.
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Sept 16, 2005 12:37:50 GMT -5
Post by Betterout on Sept 16, 2005 12:37:50 GMT -5
Until then, I'll busy myself with the small things. Collecting those little signs that the churches put at the sides of roads. Taking down fliers. Writing letters. Making sure that when people profess their faith that I let everyone know that I am not a christian and I think the idea is ludicrous. Tyler, I'm so glad you're doing your part to save humanity from the idiotic fearfulness of Christianity, especially when it comes to our self-serving pettiness and inability to do really important things with our time and money.
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Sept 16, 2005 12:44:47 GMT -5
Post by rickus on Sept 16, 2005 12:44:47 GMT -5
Justin makes a good point. What do you hope to accomplish from your "Fat Free" Project Mayhem activities: collecting signs, taking down fliers, writing letters, and letting everyone know that you're not a Christian?
By the way, I think replacing the signs and fliers with a "rogue message" would be much more interesting.
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Sept 16, 2005 14:47:31 GMT -5
Post by Tyler on Sept 16, 2005 14:47:31 GMT -5
Christianity in America relies on everyone thinking that the majority is christian. Most of the christians would convert to whatever was prevailing at the time if given any sort of excuse. They have no real belief, faith, or will. They cling due to a lack of better alternative. When they are dying in the hospital they squeal like piggies suddenly forgetting what they thought they knew. It's very very rare to see someone of faith. I, in a total of 5 years of working in hospitals, have seen only one family worth. An elderly member of their family was dying and was probably going to expire during the night. He was conscious and cognizant of his surroundings, knowing completely what was about to transpire in the next 8 hours or so. The entire family was there, kids and grandkids, probably 9 in all. The doctor told them all that grandpa was going to die in the next few hours. They all prayed together, then the family said: see you soon, grandpa and left. No tears. No remorse. Grandpa was going to Jesus. The man went to sleep quietly and peacefully and died. See, the truly faithful don’t cry at death. They don’t grieve the loss of the material. They are the second kind of Christian; Those utterly given over to the faith. They are the ones that you cannot hope to defeat through confrontation. It only makes their numbers grow. Herein lies the rub. Religions require some sort of impetus to grown and maintain. If someone isn't spurred to fear, they feel no need to believe and thus don't practice the traditions necessary to maintain the belief. The means we use to defeat them are simply education. If we can get their children to read just one book and gain any sort of perspective on the world, they will most of the time abandon the brainwashing of their youth and strike out in the hope of discovering the truth behind all the lies fostered in their youths by their religious leaders. The times when this fails is when they are drawn to the religion due to the residual effects of the trauma of their youth oft times a result of being raised by religious folk, deviations in brain chemistry, or an inability to accept reality, usually due to a dearth of personal will found often among the faithful and their progeny. As we succeed in eradicating the world of poverty and trauma we will also succeed in ridding the world of the plague of faith.
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Sept 16, 2005 15:14:02 GMT -5
Post by rickus on Sept 16, 2005 15:14:02 GMT -5
Ty,
Your condemnation isn't of God or religion, but the practitioners. I've seen this time and time again in our conversations. The religion antagonists blame or condemn God and religion based on the observable actions of the practitioners. It's like saying that Microsoft condones and encourages sodomy because their customers use Internet Explorer to view pornography.
If you have issues with the spoon fed automatons of the US I'd like very much to talk about that. But what you've said means very little to me.
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Sept 16, 2005 15:53:02 GMT -5
Post by Tyler on Sept 16, 2005 15:53:02 GMT -5
There is no god. There is nothing but the practitioners. There is no sheepherd. There are only sheep. Baaahhhh
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