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Post by Tyler on Sept 29, 2005 9:58:15 GMT -5
Yesterday morning you got up early and packed your stuff up to leave New Orleans after spending the past month assisting the poor and needy. You flew to have an early breakfast with the Dalai Lama to consult with him about the global rammifications of North Korea's recent agreement to forego development of a nuclear arsenal. Then you flew to Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic to oversee your long-standing efforts to assist the people of the worlds poorest country to establish a wood-working business to export furniture and wood to America and other developed countries. While there, you spoke with an enclave of local government officials that you had gathered there to try and combat the massive deforestation plaguing that country. You then flew to Washington to speak before the assembled congress in a successful attempt to convince them that John Roberts is unfit to serve on the Supreme Court, and that nomination of him is the last bit of evidence necessary to begin the impeachment of W. Then you defeated Cheyney in a Thunderdome match, revealing him to be Belial, a demon sent to bring low the US. You spent the evening in NY working at a soup kitchen.
...or at least you would have done all this stuff, but instead you just got really stoned.
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Post by Jeff on Sept 29, 2005 11:17:54 GMT -5
he he "woman-jack"
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Post by luceph on Sept 30, 2005 7:34:04 GMT -5
Well played Tyler, bye god that was well played!
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Post by Tyler on Nov 2, 2005 21:24:38 GMT -5
By the way... The Stooges rock the nuts off of anyone on your lists.
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Post by Guest Justin on Nov 3, 2005 10:48:11 GMT -5
By the way... The Stooges rock the nuts off of anyone on your lists. Hell yeah, man. Did you see my long Stooges post elsewhere in this forum (Indigenous :: General :: Music :: 1973: My Death Trip)? |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 3, 2005 11:02:27 GMT -5
Maybe you guys will get around to posting your own lists eventually?
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Post by Tyler on Nov 3, 2005 12:00:18 GMT -5
Your Stooges article is what made me get the first Stooges song, I wanna be your dog.
Then, Iggy Pop was on Fresh Air on NPR and Tery Grosse sounded as if she were completely fawning over him. She was talking about his strong arms and his chest.
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Post by Betterout on Nov 3, 2005 14:48:05 GMT -5
Excellent! I feel like an inquisitor in days of old, "leading" people to accept the truth.  Jeff, I'm sorry. After I got the gist of what I was trying to say about my own personal aesthetic tastes, I abandoned the task of creating a list. That was the whole point, right? Or are we making lists for other reasons? It also occurred to me that we could approach our aesthetic criteria from the back end--if you'll forgive the bizarre imagery--and discuss what specifically makes our skin crawl. If I, for example, ever hear "Daddy, Don't You Walk So Fast" again, I'm going to puke. But I don't really know why. It might be fun to explore that sort of reaction. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 3, 2005 15:12:50 GMT -5
No list required, of course. I was just curious. I like your suggestion: What other songs excite your gag reflex?
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Post by Thanin on Nov 3, 2005 17:30:01 GMT -5
I've thought about posting my own list, but I'm confused about the criteria. It seems to bounce from personal interests to objective analysis of influential bands.
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Post by Tyler on Nov 3, 2005 18:31:37 GMT -5
Forget the criteria they set up. Man, I come on these boards to read what you guys think, not some choade that I don't know weither to respect their opinion or not. I'd like to see a list of the bands that you guys think kick ass, not which are most influential. The Stones suck, no matter how you slice them, you shouldn't have to include them on your list because other people think they're great.
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Post by Betterout on Nov 3, 2005 20:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by Jeff on Nov 4, 2005 7:57:00 GMT -5
I've been listening to the Stones again this week, trying to find some way to really appreciate them. I listened to "Waiting on a Friend" a couple of times and "Time is on My Side" and "Get Off of my Cloud." I just seem to be biologically incapable of liking this band much.
Must...try...harder...
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Post by luceph on Nov 4, 2005 9:01:02 GMT -5
I've been working on a pretty big list for the past two weeks of bands and artists that I personally find influential. I'll try posting it this weekend.
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Post by Betterout on Nov 4, 2005 10:49:54 GMT -5
Jeff, there's really no point in trying any harder if you hate them that much (you listed what I would call two of the Stones' absolute best songs--Time Is on My Side and Waiting on a Friend--so if you don't like them, then you simply don't like this band). Let's just see how your complaints against them, some of which you've previously listed, figure into your overall negative aesthetic criteria.
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Post by chris on Nov 4, 2005 10:54:02 GMT -5
OMFG HOW CAN YOU SYA DA STONES SUX THEY ROCK YOU SUCK! PWN3D!
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Post by Tyler on Nov 4, 2005 11:00:59 GMT -5
Holy frejoles. Was that MacKenzie?
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Post by amanda on Nov 4, 2005 11:01:49 GMT -5
Si, senor.
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Post by chris on Nov 4, 2005 11:44:27 GMT -5
I may be late coming into this conversation, and I apologize if anything I say has already been said (that said, the Stones ROCK!) Ahem...
I'm reading this thread with a lot of interest, particularly enjoying Justin and Jeff's verbiose exchanges (and I mean that in the best way). When I got to page three, however, I was reminded of the old academic saw that says that academics fight so hard for what they believe in for the very reason that there is so little to fight over (bad paraphrase). Not that we're fighting so hard in this thread, but the discussion of influences implies that that influence is something meaningful. And I think it's a leap of literary faith to take it on face value that rock and roll/popular music has a valuable influence.
Rock music has more widespread influence than say, medieval studies (I remember a conference at OU at which two medieval scholars were up in each other's shit over some arcane point of 13th century French grammar), but still, beyond the fact that most of us really like music, so what? I would argue that the influence of 99% of these artists begins and ends with the music world. If an artist's influence is limited to the medium itself, than I don't think that influence amounts to much.
I remember a couple of years ago on December 31, All Things Considered asked a variety of professionals in not-so-in-the-limelight jobs what significant advances had occurred in their fields in the previous year. For one of them, I think they had a plumber on who spoke with some excitement over some snake device. It was, oddly enough, a fascinating segment, but it left me with the somewhat melancholy feeling that we all live such small lives.
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Post by chris on Nov 4, 2005 11:55:27 GMT -5
Good Christ, could I be a little more of a killjoy? I'm more deperessing than Ecclesiastes. Here, I'll summarize my post for you: Music doesn't matter to anyone but you, so why bother talking about it, you small-minded fuck?
I don't mean to sound so negative... I like talking art as much as the next guy. Hell, 90% of my blog is talking about art no one else cares about.
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